Comments on: More on MediaWiki Competitors http://www.quis.com/2008/08/04/more-on-mediawiki-competitors Dan Katz's thoughts on marketing, customer service, woodworking, his baby boy and other musings. Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:45:01 -0400 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Mike http://www.quis.com/2008/08/04/more-on-mediawiki-competitors/comment-page-1#comment-3923 Mike Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:24:39 +0000 http://www.quis.com/?p=64#comment-3923 Deki will be an interesting product once they sow up their installation process. Right now the installation is painful at best, especially if you want the app to co-exist on the same virtual server as other apps. Deki doesn't play well with others. Deki will be an interesting product once they sow up their installation process. Right now the installation is painful at best, especially if you want the app to co-exist on the same virtual server as other apps. Deki doesn’t play well with others.

]]> By: Aaron Fulkerson http://www.quis.com/2008/08/04/more-on-mediawiki-competitors/comment-page-1#comment-3755 Aaron Fulkerson Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:16:44 +0000 http://www.quis.com/?p=64#comment-3755 You might want to look a little more closely at MindTouch Deki. It has functionality and benefits NO other product delivers. If you watch the first demo video on this page: http://mindtouch.com/demo this will be immediately clear. It's short, give it a looksy. :-) You might want to look a little more closely at MindTouch Deki. It has functionality and benefits NO other product delivers. If you watch the first demo video on this page: http://mindtouch.com/demo this will be immediately clear. It’s short, give it a looksy. :-)

]]> By: Dan Katz http://www.quis.com/2008/08/04/more-on-mediawiki-competitors/comment-page-1#comment-3749 Dan Katz Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:03:29 +0000 http://www.quis.com/?p=64#comment-3749 PBWiki has also come up as a posisble solution. Checking them out I find that PBWiki certainly has a vocal community that enjoys the service. PBWiki certainly is a package that has a greater level of awareness that any of the others I have mentioned. And while PBWiki has a fair pricing model for smaller sites, the cost for larger sites seems very much out-of-whack when compared to alternates. Before I would use this service for my clients I would want more detail as to potential corporate account discounts because when you have around 50 users the monthly per user pricing just could not carry for my clients. PBWiki has also come up as a posisble solution. Checking them out I find that PBWiki certainly has a vocal community that enjoys the service. PBWiki certainly is a package that has a greater level of awareness that any of the others I have mentioned.

And while PBWiki has a fair pricing model for smaller sites, the cost for larger sites seems very much out-of-whack when compared to alternates. Before I would use this service for my clients I would want more detail as to potential corporate account discounts because when you have around 50 users the monthly per user pricing just could not carry for my clients.

]]> By: Alan Lepofsky http://www.quis.com/2008/08/04/more-on-mediawiki-competitors/comment-page-1#comment-3747 Alan Lepofsky Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:27:56 +0000 http://www.quis.com/?p=64#comment-3747 Hi Dan, my name is Alan Lepofsky, and I work at Socialtext. Above you mention that Mindtouch, Atlassian, and Socialtext are going after the same market. While there may be some overlap, I wanted to point out that Socialtext has recently evolved to be much more than just a wiki company. With the introduction of Socialcalc, Socialtext users now have an integrated online spreadsheet which supports wiki markup. That means you get much more than just another web based spreadsheet. Instead, you can now embed wiki pages (or links, or sections, or...) into cells. Vice versa, you can embed spreadsheets, or even cells or ranges of cells into wiki pages. It is amazing. Socialtext also now offers Dashboards and People, providing a custom home page experience (that can also contain Google gadgets, RSS feeds, etc) and profile information about your business colleagues. Socialtext's platform is avilable either hosted, or can be placed inside a company's firewall via an appliance. Zero admin is a good thing, vs. just providing software for customers to download, install, configure, and manage on their own. Finally, Socialtext has a professional consulting group that can work with customers on best practices, helping ensure successful use of the products. It is not just enough to put it out there, you have to solve a business need in order for users to adopt any new technology. If you'd like a demo, or any more information, please don't hesitate to contact me. Hi Dan, my name is Alan Lepofsky, and I work at Socialtext. Above you mention that Mindtouch, Atlassian, and Socialtext are going after the same market. While there may be some overlap, I wanted to point out that Socialtext has recently evolved to be much more than just a wiki company. With the introduction of Socialcalc, Socialtext users now have an integrated online spreadsheet which supports wiki markup. That means you get much more than just another web based spreadsheet. Instead, you can now embed wiki pages (or links, or sections, or…) into cells. Vice versa, you can embed spreadsheets, or even cells or ranges of cells into wiki pages. It is amazing. Socialtext also now offers Dashboards and People, providing a custom home page experience (that can also contain Google gadgets, RSS feeds, etc) and profile information about your business colleagues. Socialtext’s platform is avilable either hosted, or can be placed inside a company’s firewall via an appliance. Zero admin is a good thing, vs. just providing software for customers to download, install, configure, and manage on their own. Finally, Socialtext has a professional consulting group that can work with customers on best practices, helping ensure successful use of the products. It is not just enough to put it out there, you have to solve a business need in order for users to adopt any new technology. If you’d like a demo, or any more information, please don’t hesitate to contact me.

]]> By: Steve Bjorg http://www.quis.com/2008/08/04/more-on-mediawiki-competitors/comment-page-1#comment-3746 Steve Bjorg Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:14:49 +0000 http://www.quis.com/?p=64#comment-3746 Also to point out a few more things about MindTouch. First, our website is powered by Deki. This gives you an idea how good looking a wiki can really be. Think super agile CMS! Second, we recently converted all of Mozilla's Developer Community from MediaWiki to Deki, including active content and templates! In short, anybody with a MediaWiki site can now upgrade to Deki and keep all the content and history intact! Of course, like everything else, the converter is open source as well. Enjoy! Also to point out a few more things about MindTouch. First, our website is powered by Deki. This gives you an idea how good looking a wiki can really be. Think super agile CMS! Second, we recently converted all of Mozilla’s Developer Community from MediaWiki to Deki, including active content and templates! In short, anybody with a MediaWiki site can now upgrade to Deki and keep all the content and history intact! Of course, like everything else, the converter is open source as well. Enjoy!

]]> By: Jon Silvers http://www.quis.com/2008/08/04/more-on-mediawiki-competitors/comment-page-1#comment-3744 Jon Silvers Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:10:12 +0000 http://www.quis.com/?p=64#comment-3744 Thanks for the review and "kudos." :) Thanks for the review and “kudos.” :)

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